Religious Quotes of the Day: “Atheists are Fools”
I have noticed a trend lately in which Christians, like the Rev. Billy Graham are quoting verses from Psalms that outright calls us atheists “fools”. I’ve read many responses like this at various other atheist blogs. Here are the two verses I’m referring to:
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. ’ ” ~Psalm 14:1.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
~Psalm 53:1
Many Christians will tell you that the laws in the Old Testament are no longer applicable to them, at least in part…but yet they will readily quote verses from the Old Testament to justify their hatred dislike of atheists.
The following is a direct quote from Jesus Christ…at least according to the book of Matthew:
“But anyone who says, `You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.” ~Matt. 5:22
It seems to me that if a Christian calls anyone a fool that they are in need of repentance, but I’m sure they will find a way to justify or sidestep an issue like this. Why would today’s Christians overlook such a direct statement? This guy in this video blatantly uses this word toward atheists.
“I was RIGHT…atheists ARE FOOLS!”
So, the next time a known Christian calls you a fool…quote Matthew 5:22 to them. “But anyone who says, `You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.”
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Putting aside the AVALANCHE of evidence demonstrating the thousands of mistakes, contradictions and downright foolishness of the bible…. How am I supposed to take someone seriously when they use i.e (correctly) and e.g. (incorrectly) in their sentences trying to sound smarter than they actually are? Not to mention those idiotic sideburns and the sleeveless t-shirt? You’re just SO much smarter than the rest of us monkeys, right?! Why, you have it ALL written down for you! PATHETIC.
so if i telepathically tell him i accept him as my master, he will remove an evil force from my soul that is present in all humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree?
Roughly
Atheists are fools because they can’t comprehend the intricacies and joy of the Bible. The Bible inspired Shakespeare.
~Matt. 5:22
And Spanish poet Garcilaso de la Vega was inspired by greek-latin mythology. Are we going to Hades for not believing Apollo is the one carrying the sun?
Wait… I missed this.
The Bible inspired Shakespeare? That’s your rebuttal?
Besides anything else, the man was as randy as a goat!
Have you read Shakespeare? I don’t mean the modern ‘adaptions’ and plays that tone the plays down – I mean the actual, original plays?
The Bible has also “inspired” the KKK, Christian Identity and other hate-groups.
Also, the witch hunts (burnings at the stake) of Europe and the European Inquisitions.
actually, a mold that grew on the bread is concidered the main reason for the which hunts in america…it was later used in the making of LSD.
The mold caused the girls and women to act crazy. The Bible cause the community around the to BE crazy.
What’s fascinating to me, Matt, is this . . .
You’re exactly right. Jesus had a LOT of the same problems with organized religion that you do. He didn’t much care for anyone who put themselves on that pedestal, and particularly those who did so in the name of God.
Much of what’s been practiced in Jesus’ name is the EXACT thing he would have railed against . . . the same way he threw the merchants out of the temple.
And he certainly wouldn’t have called an athiest “a fool.” He wouldn’t have tried to convert you. He wouldn’t have even argued with you. In fact, he probably would pour you a glass of wine, maybe cook for you. He certainly would have valued you as a human being and respected you as such.
While there is certainly some overlap, being a Christian does NOT equate to practicing what Christ taught.
1. Anyone who actually has a clue knows JC NEVER EXISTED! There is NO secular proof of he/she/it’s
existence.
And why, if JC was an ACTUAL person was he NOT treated as one for the FIRST THREE HUNDRED YEARS of the Christian Religion? Why was his supposed birth NOT celabrated until the Christians got mad about former slaves were still partying & enjoying
PAGEN Holidays?
2. Maybe it is my WebTV, only I do NOT see any links on the RIGHT side of this blog where I can sign up.
3. As I would sure like to be in email contact with MARK, PLEASE e-me.
THANKS!
Neil C. Reinhardt
Neil:
I don’t get so hung up on whether or not Jesus actually existed, where he was born, etc. I’m not a Bible thumper like that.
What I DO believe is that there are certain spiritual teachings that are attributed to Jesus — teachings that are not only extremely practical, they’re consistent with other spiritual traditions from around the world.
So for the sake of this dialogue, to me whether or not Jesus lived is less important than what he “taught.” And in this case, he “taught” to not be judgmental and to be kind, even to people who disagree with you. That’s why — if he lived — he would probably treat you to dinner.
Lee
http://www.amessagefromgod.org
It’s there now, Neil.
Hey Neil,
Don’t mean to get in your face about this – but when an atheist who advocates reason gets their facts wrong, it makes us all look bad.
There was long a tradition in the Church of celebrating the Nativity of Jesus. The holy day for this ritual on the liturgical calendar falls on the 25st of December when converted to the Gregorian calendar.
So the Mass of the Nativity of Christ was one of the twelve Great Feasts celebrated by the Church. However, the Feasts relating to Mary (Theokolos) were the big ones. The nativity of Christ was relatively unimportant compared to the Feasts of the Theokolos.
The summer solstice falls (depending on the year) around the 21st or the 22nd of December on the Gregorian Calendar. So you’re superficially correct – it was only once the Church tried to clamp down on Solstice festivals (and failed) that the Mass of the Nativity of Christ became Christmas, and adopted the Solstice rituals. The concept of a ‘birthday’ is something else that was adopted from pagan rituals as a rough match to the Christian notion of a Nativity Feast.
But when you said that there was no celebration of the birth of Christ before the Christians ‘got mad about former slaves were still partying & enjoying PAGEN Holidays’, you’re very much incorrect.
Sorry I got all lecture-y on you… But aside from being untrue, this kind of thing also reflects badly on the rest of us.
Atheists are so foolish. Like a child with imaginary friends that imagines things that aren’t there.
Oh, wait.
The Bible! well, come put me to the test—
Lovely old book in hideous error drest—
Believe me, I can quote the Bible too,
The unbeliever knows his Bible best.
^_^
1. The Bible
A. Was put together by a bunch of camel jockeys running around the deserts of the Middle East over 2,000 years ago.
B. It is a collection of original stories, stories taken from other religions of the time as well as previous religions.
C. It shows NO knowledge of many, many things including the world being an oval, the earth not being the center of the universe or even of the existence Western Hemisphere.
D. It is full of contradictions and very terrible crimes committed by “god” and
he/she/it’s followers.
E. As far as I know, the Bible only says to NOT KILL TWICE
While it’s tells it’s “believers” TO KILL at least TWENTY EIGHT TIMES
F. There is NOTHING in the bible which is beyond of capability of nearly any person to come up with.
2. The Christian Bible inspired, and/or inspires:
A. The Crusades
B. The Inquisitions,
C. Witch Trials
D. MANY, MANY Wars
E. DISCRIMINATION
F. BIGOTRY
G. HATE
H. IGNORANCE
And among others, HITLER, Neo Nazis and the KKK!
Anyone who is so uninformed, illogical and Irrational as to believe what the Bible says is a Programmed Religious Robot!
And who has absolutely no clue they ever were “programmed” much less they still are.
3. “GOD”
A. The Christian “god” is ONLY ONE of the more than TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND gods humans have invented so far.
B. There is NO more proof the Christian god is any more real than are any of the other gods
C. NO god has ANY PROOF of existence
D. IF the god of the Christians exists and if such a god is truly ALL Powerful & ALL
Knowing, he/she/it is the epitome of incompetence!
I would not even wist to be acquainted with anyone as screwed up as the god of the Christians much less would i worship such a total loser!
The TRUTH IS, ALL gods ONLY exist in the minds of those who believe they exist. NO god exists in the real world!
NO GOD does ANYTHNKMG
And NO, I do NOT have to PROVE that NO gods exist as this is not the way it works. In the Court of Law, in the Labs of Science and in the realm of common sense it is NOT incumbent on those who say something is NOT TRUE to prove it is not true.
Rather IT IS the responsibility of those who say a crime has been committed, or a scientific breakthrough made or there IS a god, TO PROVE IT!
Period!
End Of Story!
Next, to the obviously uninformed person who said I had my facts wrong about why the Christians STOLE the Winter Solstice to claim it for the celebration of the birth of the non-existent JC.
You REALLY NEED TO DO SOME IN DEPTH RESEARCH as it is YOU who does not have your facts straight.
(F.Y.I. Odds of finding me wrong on ANY subject I care to comment on are so close to ZERO, they may as well be zero.)
FOOLS
Ref:
REASON vs. SUPERNATURAL SERIES
A COMPENDIUM OF QUOTES BY FREE THINKERS THROUGHOUT HISTORY
http://www.hillmanweb.com/reason
“He who will not reason, is a bigot; He who cannot, is a fool; And he who dares not, is a slave.” ~ William Drummond
“In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide. . . . When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind, old men as guides.” ~ Heinrich Heine (1797-1856)
“The foolish reject what they see and not what they think; the wise reject what they think and not what they see.” ~ Huang Po
“You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion. . . . Dogs do not ritually urinate in the hope of persuading heaven to do the same and send down rain. Asses do not bray a liturgy to cloudless skies. Nor do cats attempt, by abstinence from cat’s meat, to wheedle the feline spirits into benevolence. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent enough.” ~ Aldous Huxley
“I have examined all of the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our superstitions of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all founded on fables and mythology. Christianity has made one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
“What excellent fools religion makes of men!” ~ Ben Johnson
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” ~ Bertrand Russell
“It is hard to free fools from chains they revere.” ~ Voltaire
“Better to be thought a fool, than to open your bible and remove all doubt.” ~ Anonymous
“People gave ear to an upstart astrologer [Copernicus] who strove to show that the earth revolves, not the heavens or the firmament, the sun and the moon. Whoever wishes to appear clever must devise some new system, which of all systems is of course the very best. This fool [or 'man'] wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred Scripture tells us that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth.” ~ Martin Luther
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Any rational, intelligent and logical person who has done even a little research on the subject knows Ernesto “Chu” Guevara was total loser as a military commander, a low-life, scum-sucking, puss-eating Terrorist & Mass Murder who personally killed old men and women with a base ball bat.
He is someone I’d have loved to personally rid the world of.
How very interesting.
first of all, his name was Che. and there are many many men whom you probably concider “Heroes” who killed far more people than he ever did. Che was a man who worked for what he believed and fought for the rights of people who couldnt fight for themselves.
check your sources.
Can someone explain how this is anything but an elitist statement meant to exclude rather than include people in God’s plan of salvation? He’s not calling people fools but he sure is treating them like fools!
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“When [Jesus] was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, ‘The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, “they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!”‘”
[Mark 4:10-12]
Um, Mark . . .
With all due respect, you took that particular passage out of context.
Immediately preceding that passage is the “Parable of the Sower,” in which Jesus draws parallels between the Kingdom of God and a farmer sowing seeds. If interested, read the whole thing here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%204:%201-20;&version=31;
Right before the passage you quote, Jesus says: “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
Right AFTER the passage you quote, Jesus lays out explicitly for the disciples — pretty much line for line — the precise spiritual principle he was teaching.
As to why that’s not elitist, well, basically Jesus is saying that in order to apply his teachings, one must first be receptive to them. It is an acknowledgment of free will, not a belittling of people as “fools.”
Finally, if you step outside of whether Jesus or God exists or not, there are sound and extremely practical lessons here, one that anybody can use, regardless of their religious beliefs (or lack thereof):
Principle: One should be mindful of what seeds (thoughts) he is sowing into the ground (mind).
Applied: You can’t sow the seeds of discord in your own mind and be surprised when disharmony sprouts in your experience.
Principle: One should also be mindful of whether the ground (the mind) is fertile for desired seeds (thoughts).
Applied: The ground on “Proud Athiests” is not very fertile for ideas about God. Then again, on my very first post here, I explicitly said I wasn’t trying to convert anyone anyway, so I never had any expectation that anyone here would change their way of thinking based on what I write. I never expected these seeds to grow.
That said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
Lee
http://www.amessagefromgod.org
Oh dear, oh dear. That dude is fugly and stupid. No wonder he found Jesus. He’s slap bang in the middle of the church’s target group!
My favorite response to the “Fool has said” quote is “If even a fool can work it out, what’s your excuse”. On a more serious note, the statement is not only demonstrably untrue but in fact the opposite of true. The more intelligent and well educated a person is the less likely they are to believe in God and some of mankind’s greatest benefactors have been atheists.
On the subject of name calling, here is Ruth Hermence Green quoting Jesus, admittedly out of context but referring to the original text won’t save him I’m afraid:
“Ye fools and blind! Serpents! Dogs, whited sepulchres, enemies. Faithless generation! Adulterous generation! Satan! Hypocrites, ye who work iniquity. Generation of vipers! Perverse generation! Thou blind Pharisee! Wicked and evil generation!”
All you had to do to get slated in this way was to disagree with him or fail to grasp the meaning of some of his enigmatic and cryptic teachings.
C.C.W. I’d bet that I understand the Bible better than you do, I have actually read it all the way through from “In the beginning” to “All God’s children Amen” and studied it in considerable detail.
Yeah, people often miss that Jesus didn’t mind getting the face of the power structure . . . that’s what got him killed (assuming you believe he existed at all).
And a minor correction: Jesus didn’t much rip people for not comprehending what he said. Scathing remarks like these were reserved for those who were in positions of power (and supposed spiritual wisdom) who talked a good game but weren’t practicing what they preached . . . and weren’t helping the poor and downtrodden. Jesus had a REAL issue with them.
On that principle, it’d be real interesting to see how he’d handle some of these megachurch preachers . . . .
Lee
http://www.amessagefromgod.org
DUH!
Oh Gee Wiz his name was “Che!” It is illogical to get all excited over a typo when it is abundantly clear to whom I was referrng.
F.Y.I.
1. The PRIMARY purpose of language is to communicate
2. It IS very possible to use PERFECT grammer and PERFECT spelling and still NOT communicate the desired message. (As amply demonstrated in many documents, assembly instructions and in other such things.)
So all of this “Perfectness” FAILED the PRIMARY purpose of language.
The bottom line is: IF the desired message was sucessfully communicated, such things such as
mispelling and grammer are not germaine. They are of no importance.
(And the only ones who worry about such things are some of the anal retentive nit pickers who infest our world.)
Next, using the number of people someone Killed as a method to judge if a person is “good” or “bad” if they are a “Hero” OR a “Villan” is illogical, irrational, uninformed and STUPID! A perfect example of someone who is a “First Brain” rather than a “New Brain” thinker.
“Che was a man who worked for what he believed and fought for the rights of people who couldnt fight for themselves.
DUH! SO WAS HITLER! Bill Jones! David Kerish!
and MANY others.
CHE G. WAS SCUM!
PERIOD!
END OF STORY!
I do not have to check my sources as sufficent research will prove to ALL rational, logical and intelligent people what I have said about the low life “Che” (or anything else) is FACTUAL!
This, it is YOU, who needs to check your sources. (Or, it could be you are not rational, or logical or that intelligent.)
Now, now. There’s plenty of Christians who would disagree with you about Hitler. Take the wacko members of “The Family” in that house on C Street. And they’re some of the most powerful Christians in the world! You don’t want to piss THEM off, do you?
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OPPS, MY BAD!
I meant “Jim Jones”
And not “Bill Jones” (One of whom I worked with for many years.)
Is that Gary Busey? I thought he was in prison.
Oh Ubiquitous Che,
I am sorry. I am in error.
I do apologize to you as my poor reading of what you said caused me to screw up.
Shame on me. Spank my hand!
Where I said: “there was no celebration of the birth of Christ before the Christians ‘got mad about former slaves were still partying & enjoying PAGAN Holidays.”
I SHOULD have said: “I am not aware of any celebrations of the birth of Christ before the Christians ‘got mad about former slaves were still partying & enjoying PAGAN Holidays so they took over the Pagans celebration of Winter Solstice”
Again, I am sorry for my error.
Dude, why don’t you just take a chill pill.
Your amendment is still in error: The Nativity of Christ was celebrated long before the Church adopted Christmas.
I do appreciate the effort, however.
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“The Christian god is cruel, capacious.
vindictive and unjust.”
Thomas Jefferson
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I. As far as Hitler.
1. Christians LIE!
A. They lie about the Golden Rule as there were NINE of them BEFORE the Christians came authorship.
B. They LIE about the Founding of the United States and the religious beliefs of Our Founding Fathers
C. And they certainly LIE about Atheists
2. While Hitler may have not PRIVATELY been a Catholic, he was most certainly one PUBLICLY!
As the quotes in this article will prove:
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The Religion of Hitler
Hitler was a Christian, not an Atheist as the Christians would like everyone to believe.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/john…/religionofhitler.html
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2. Hitler was helped into power by the Catholic newspapers, the Catholic Clergy and the Catholic Church. And while Hitler was in power he was supported by ALL of them as well.
3. Nearly all of those in German & Italian military were Lutherans or Catholics. (And this certainly includes the Death Camp guards.)
4. German soldiers had “God Is With Us ” on their belt buckles.
5. Christian religious instruction in schools was MANDATORY!
6. Gun owners, Atheists and doctors who performed Abortions (as well as others) were included along with the Jews in the Concentration/Death Camps.
7. Cathodic puppets MURDERED from ten’s, to hundreds of thousands of Greek Orthodox who would NOT convert to Catholicism.
(This is why the Serbs were killing Catholics along with Moslems a few years ago.)
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“Hitler’s Religion,” by Anne Nicol Gaylor
Biographer John Toland wrote of Hitler’s religion: “Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, …
http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/back/hitler.html
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8. After the defeat of Germany, Catholic lay people & the Church were instrumental in either hiding Nazi’s in Germany as well as getting Nazis out of Germany and transported to other countries
9. If the Catholic Church did not support Hitler, WHY has Hitler NEVER been ex-communicated?
So while Hitler MAY not have privately been a Catholic, his PUBLIC comments and HIS ACTIONS PROVE he may as well been one.
Nor were his words and actions those of an Atheist. I know of no Atheists who would put other Atheists, only because they were Atheists, and doctors who preformed abortions, in Death Camps
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II. As far as JC NOT being treated as anything other than a “normal” human man.
A. Why was there not the same big thing made out of celebrating his supposed birthday for over 300 years as there was later?
B. Since Winter Solstice was months away from the date of JC supposed birth, why did the Christians steal Winter Solstice from the Pagans? Whey did they not pick the date they thought was closer to being the right one.
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III. As far as Winter Solstice and Christmas:
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The Origins of Christmas and Easter (No. 235) Explains the Origins of Christmas & Easter, contends Christians should not take part in these
Holidays.
http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.htm
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III. As far as Winter Solstice and Christmas
That’s as may be.
It is still incorrect to state that Christians did not celebrate the birth of Christ before they adopted the Solstice festival. The Feast of the Nativity of Christ is older than the Christian adaptation of the Solstice into Christmas.
Once again Neil, I do respect and appreciate your efforts to clarify your position. Such efforts are important to ensure we don’t decline into the same narrow-minded out-group prejudice that we revile so deeply when performed by the religiously minded.
Just HOW am I still in error when I said ” I WAS NOT AWARE”?
While now, thanks to you, I am aware there “was long a tradition in the Church of celebrating the Nativity of Jesus.”
Instead of just saying. I am in error, point out the error. (Like I have with the terrorist scum “Che”)
I do apologize for my misreading. I interpreted this:
… to mean you were amending the adoption of the Solstice celebrations – not that you were acknowledging that your position that ‘there was no celebration of the birth of Christ’ before this adoption took place.
I acknowledge this was a misreading on my part, and I accept your correction.
If these verses don’t describe the character and life testimony of an Atheist I don’t know what does:
“Arise, O God, contend for Your own cause; Remember how the foolish man reproaches You all the day long.”
Psalm 74:22
“Do not forget the voice of Your adversaries, the roar of those who rise up against You goes up continually.”
Psalm 74:23
POOR RON!
I submit, the only thing which surpasses the Infinite Ignorance of those who think Atheists are fools for being Atheists is their Astronomical Arrogance they have the slightest clue.
If those who say Atheists are fools want to see a real fool, all they have to do is look in a mirror!
The facts prove Atheists are the leaders or among the leaders in ever field. IF Atheists are fools, why are three of the richest people in the world Atheists? (Gates, Buffet and Branson.)
IF Atheists are fools, why are all three of
the only people have been awarded two Noble Prizes each, all Atheists? (Curi,
Russell and Palling)
IF Atheists are fools, I would love to be a fool like Tom Edison, Mark Twain and Walt Disney. OR like Jack Nichelson.
Marlon Brando, Sir Richard Burton, Bert Lancaster, W.C. Fields, Woody Allan, Jody Foster and Kathryn Hepburn
I could go on and on and on naming very famous and very successful Atheists only by now even Ron should get a clue.
Those all the true fools who say Atheists are fools do is prove if Ignorance actually was Bliss, they would be in a constant state of Ecstasy!
The Bible calls people fools. According to Christians the Bible was written by men, influenced by God. God is not bound by the same rules he creates for humanity. (Hence “anyone”) So if a Christian were to say an atheist is a fool, they could just be following what the Bible says and repeating it. In most cases, I’ll admit they probably are not, unfortunately. But just because a Christian (or anyone for that matter) calls someone a fool doesn’t mean they’re doing it blatantly.
But yet, the Bible says this in the New Testament and is a direct quote from Christ….
~Matt. 5:22
Pengui:
If they’re not doing it blatantly, how are they doing it?
Seems to me that parroting back ‘the Bible says atheists are fools’ as if that was definitive on the matter may not be blatant – but it does smack of a certain ignorant genius for irony.